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an infographic illustrating the average amount of suidices that occured on the Golden Gate Bridge in San Fransisco ordered by position. these statistics are based on police reports that mention the most nearby light pole of the suicide.
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109 COMMENTS

I suppose they all jumped from the south side because they came from San Francisco, to the west.

Tue 11 Jul 2006 at 3:28 PM
dnl2ba

Er-- obviously, I meant to the south... thereby demonstrating the power of visualization. :p

Tue 11 Jul 2006 at 3:31 PM
dnl2ba

Okay, I fail at the Internet and graphs and life in general. A friend pointed out the caption I didn't bother reading: the east side is the side with the pedestrian walkway. D'oh.

Wed 12 Jul 2006 at 3:23 PM
dnl2ba

don't worry, dnl2ba, I am sure you are not the only one not reading the caption.

Wed 12 Jul 2006 at 4:02 PM
infosthetics

to dnl2ba

both sides of the Golden Gate Bridge have walkways.

The reason the more deaths occur on the Eastern rail is due to the parking and municipal transportaion that is close the the Eastern walkway.

Sat 22 Jul 2006 at 11:30 AM
pk057

Saw another guy jump 2 days ago. he dropped in the water about 50 yards from me. What an ugly feeling you get from this every time.

Thu 27 Jul 2006 at 8:44 AM
Kiteboarder

to kiteboarder,
what did YOU do when you saw the jumper?

Thu 03 Aug 2006 at 10:53 AM
petey

The design of the Bridge has been flawed since day one.

One dies every fifteen days over 1,500 to date – and consider the families that are destroyed by the horrible death of their loved on and left behind.

There have been numerous attempts by concerned citizens to correct that flaw.

However, the Bridge directorate has been boxed in because they lack sufficient funds to make the correction. The reason they lack the funds is due to the mismanagement of the Transpiration District especially over the last twenty five years.

The Golden Gate Bridge was originally proposed as a toll bridge with the intention of the tolls paying off the bondholders resulting in a low cost entity. Funds would only be needed to maintain the bridge. However, the bridge directorate diverted revenues into a bus service - ferry line and rail line. All of which were outside the original intention of the Golden Gate Bridge Plan.

Today the District is managed by political appointees who have no knowledge of engineering - structural integrity - finance - bus or ferry management. They are appointed to the positions because they are vote or money getters for the minor politicians that appoint them.

The Bridge rails are factually too low and present an attractive hazard. Raising the rails will prevent suicide it is axiomatic. The easy option is to close the walkways.

The argument that the Bridge should not be fixed because people will just go somewhere else is foolish. First of all suicide is an impetuous act, once stopped studies show that 98% never attempt again.

Knowing a significant hazard exists and ignoring it is similar to saying that to remove a loaded gun from a psychiatric ward is foolish because they will just kill them selves another way. There is an obligation to act.

Suicide has reached epidemic proportions, the solution is to remove hazardous means and invest in educating regarding mental health.

Raise the rails end the deaths

Sun 03 Sep 2006 at 4:42 AM
pkhines

What about some kind of warm,inviting mental health facilities,based on both sides of the bridge,easily reachable so that some potentials,might get last chance attention and reasoning.Subsidized by federal funds,donations and volunteers.If allot of these people would be committing suicide anyways,than the Golden Gate could become a place that might save some of those lives. Studies show that those attempting suicide and stopped have a very large percentage that never try again.Just a thought, it could be altered or adjusted.High percentages that do jump,change their minds after they leap,I'll bet.It could also have films,going about people who survived and how they changed their minds after they jumped and how they learned to live with their problems and depression and what positive things they are doing now.

Sun 12 Nov 2006 at 7:48 AM
gary dietz

I think if I saw someone acting like they're going to jump off the bridge I'd alert the bridge authority asap about it. That way I don't have to live with the guilt of not caring enough about another human being whether they lived or died. Suicide is a permanant solution to very temporary problems. We need more good therapists who care more about helping people than the almighty dollar, not everyone can afford costly professional help. Just some thoughts.

Wed 29 Nov 2006 at 10:50 PM
jean

did anyone see the jumper on 10-16-06? I hear someone tried to stop her, and couldn't. she was my friend, I want to know what he saw...

Sat 09 Dec 2006 at 7:48 AM
Trynin

While on a business trip to SF recently, I walked the bridge and was surprised and delighted to find that it had not yet been ruined by the Enforced Safety Uber Alles crowd. I had always assumed there already was some horrible high rail or enclosing mesh to invalidate the experience of standing in the open air with nothing in between the viewer and the reality of the experience. Subconsciously, we all get a thrill from the thanatos -- that's why we're out there on these landmarks/looukouts/mountains in the first place, to taste a peak experience of freedom away from the safe enclosing walls of condo and cubicle. Sometimes people are overcome and they jump, and it's sad for those of us left behind. But freedom isn't authentic unless it includes the freedom to make the wrong decision. Putting up high railings or restraints would transform the bridge experience into just another sanitized tourist trap where souvenir postcard photos are just as good as being there. If I could not walk out on the bridge and reconnect with the eternity of creation and the finity of my earthly vessel, I would not bother walking out there at all.

Thu 19 Apr 2007 at 7:53 AM
Randy

randy,
you're full of crap...

Tue 29 May 2007 at 6:14 AM
boris

Randy-- cheers! You obviously understand the entire life experience. Ours is a society of warning labels on everything from a t-shirt to a cup of hot coffee; of removing "old" vintage buidings in favor of new cottage cheese ceiling condos; I won't go on, the list is endless. I vote against the Walmart mentality.

Thu 31 May 2007 at 12:58 PM

I thought the sound equipment through signals of small cameras that could be on at a continual home base of the patrols. This would expand the entire length of the bridge by each lamppost.

on another note:
The movie, "The Bridge", what happened with the young gal that was saved? I cried of happiness for her. I pray she is finding a home in this earth.

Wed 13 Jun 2007 at 2:08 PM
Shy

A recent friend of mine jumped from the G.G. bridge. It hurts so bad to know how many other people are feeling what I am feeling.

Mon 18 Jun 2007 at 9:00 AM
Kaitlyn

Randy, YES. I could have not said it better. I personally have seen it but have never been on it. but if sometime in the future i find out a tall fence has been put up, i dont think ill bother even goin on it.

Wed 20 Jun 2007 at 11:48 AM
Victor

Randy is wrong. My 31 years old daughter died last July 7th. She did not want to die but the "thoughts" from her bipolar illness told her to jump. She warned us earlier about these painful "thoughts" and told us to get her to the hospital when they came; but we weren't home. People who are ill are not always in control of their destiny. The Bridge needs a barrier!

Sat 23 Jun 2007 at 8:50 PM
suzanne

So just how many people have taken the leap from the bridge this year anyone know?????

Fri 06 Jul 2007 at 8:25 AM
JOEY SINNER

If the Golden Gate is made "safe" from jumpers, will they not seek something else? Fix the bridge? Hmmm...

Fri 06 Jul 2007 at 7:54 PM
Lars

I am from Elk Grove, CA, and I can honestly say that I have been pondering doing a jump. Many issues why, and I have more made up my mind that it will happen, just not sure when. Some will not understand what goes thru a jumper's mind. I had already taken a walk across this bridge a few months when I was pondering all this. Although some people can find strength to work thru their problems, not everyone can, me being one. it's better for all involved and I don't have to worry about being the mistake that I have been.
This is not a joke, and I have taken serious consideration to this. Sometimes it's the only option.

Sat 07 Jul 2007 at 5:57 AM
Frank

i have almost seen every jumper from feb. of 04 till 13 of jul 07 WAY to many end there lifes that affect many young people that recover them. This causes alot more problems then just for family and friends. think about it

Wed 11 Jul 2007 at 6:11 AM
Sid

i'd like to get in touch with suzanne, if she would like to share her experience with me. the same illness took away from me my brother. i am still struggling with the question of what was going on, what thoughts led him there, against his will. thanks

Tue 24 Jul 2007 at 3:00 AM
m

To: m (July 24, 2007) This is Suzanne. My e-mail is suzsama57@yahoo.com if you wish to contact me.

Tue 31 Jul 2007 at 6:47 PM
Suzanne Ota

I have decided on Aug 20th, 2007. It has taken a lot of thought but after about a month of serious debate, this is going to be the best thing for me as well as those close to me whom have carried the burden of me for 28 years. No more.

Thu 02 Aug 2007 at 6:06 PM
tm

Please say the last post is a joke. If not...PLEASE rethink what your saying. Talk to someone

www.save.org
1.800.SUICIDE

Fri 03 Aug 2007 at 9:35 AM
Jamie

I have done all the thinking needed. I don't really care for some suicide help line. They feel more like a cry for help and I don't need help, this is what I want. Besides what can a stranger really tell me? No, this is for the best. It is a good thing, not a bad thing. People die every day, it's just a part of life, like breathing or eating, has to be done.

Sat 04 Aug 2007 at 5:50 AM
tm

tm, why not just get in your car and drive away. Go anywhere and start a new life. Get a different job, meet new people...
If you life sucks so bad that you want to end it. Get up and leave that life, by starting another! Life is to precious.
Please watch "The Bridge" before doing anything! You will have a different viewpoint after watching!

Sat 04 Aug 2007 at 8:20 AM
Kelley

Im with Randy, its not the bridge's fault its there as beautiful and majestic as it's always been, if a person has genuinely decided for whatever reason to take thier own life nothing on this earth will stop them, ruining the bridges beauty will do nothing for suicide rates, leave the bridge alone!!

Sat 04 Aug 2007 at 6:38 PM
darren

Im with Randy, it's not the bridges fault it's there, as beautiful and majestic as it's always been, if someone has genuinely decided to take thier own life nothing on this earth will stop them, they will find a way, ruining the bridges beauty would do nothing for suicide rates, leave the bridge alone!!

Sat 04 Aug 2007 at 6:48 PM
Darren

I have watched The Bridge three times now, it hasn't changed my mind in the least. One of the most beautiful things I have ever seen is when Gene jumps at the end. I don't know why but out of all of the ones shown in the movie his is the most amazing. Simply a will to let go and the courage to do it. He looks so at peace. Through the whole film we see him pacing back and forth looking completely engulfed in pain but the moment he leans back it all goes away. I want that more than anything.

Sat 04 Aug 2007 at 9:45 PM
tm

tm - I live in London, England and watched "The Bridge" yesterday. It has affected me in such a way that it made me do a search on the fascination of people wanted to end their lives off the GGB. How do you know that Gene didn't change his mind half-way down his formidable fall? You know life really isn't that bad - you can correct everything in life with love and the help of others around you, and that doesn't have to be family or friends. Sometimes strangers are the strongest and biggest help of all. I've been through crap in my life - I overcame cancer at the age of 16 and got through it - I am now married and have a beautiful daughter and everything to live for. You only get one chance at this life and there is a way around the difficulties it throws at you. You can be strong and get through this difficult time in your life. Please give this some serious thought. Talk to someone - ANYONE - and there is help out there for you. You are a fantastic human being - you are unique and there is only one you and yes you can make a real difference to everyone in this world.

Mon 06 Aug 2007 at 1:35 AM
Bru

I appreciate the concern but it isn't about not being loved. I know there are people that love me I just hope they can understand that this is what I want, that I'm tired. I don't understand why it has to be a bad thing or something to be prevented or frowned upon. We all die, it's a part of lifes cycle. No way around it. I am just choosing to go a little early. I want out.

Tue 07 Aug 2007 at 10:37 PM
tm

tm - Why do you want out? What r u tired of?

Wed 08 Aug 2007 at 9:56 AM
Bru

tm - and why August 20th? What's so special about that day?

Wed 08 Aug 2007 at 10:00 AM
Bru

What most suicides do not realize is that this way out(Jumping to the water)is a VERY painful way of dying. Is equivalent to a car crash.Basicaly the body goes 75/80 mph in about 5 seconds and then hits the water.All the internal organs then rip apart causing massive internal bleeding!That if the broken ribs don't puncture the lungs and heart. Is just a gruesome way of dying! Sorry about the graphic description but some "jumpers" wannabe might want to know that first. Don't jump!!!Look for help!!! will be thankful someday!

Wed 08 Aug 2007 at 5:46 PM
Angel

Tm, I am not going to lie and say that I never thought of suicide. However,everytime I did,the fascination faded away when I imagined the suffering and the pain that my self elimination would do to people who loves me. Even dead, you would be a living problem on someone else's soul EVERY day! How could you rest knowing that?knowing that that selfish act is hurting someone for life?

Wed 08 Aug 2007 at 5:59 PM
M.A

No real reason for the 20th other than the fact that it gives me enough time to tie off some loose ends and to see some people for the last time. I'm tired of failing. I have failed at every single aspect of life. I have failed at school, failed at staying employed, failed at every relationship I have ever tried to pursue. I'm done with it. I'm done with trying to identify and explore my own bullshit and figure out why this makes me feel this way or how this causes me to do this. I'm just completely done with it.
I realize the cause of death in most jumpers. I know that it is a 222 foot drop at low tied, a 4 second fall at 74mph and that the cause of death is usually your own ribcage piercing your heart and organs. I don't care how much pain is involved as long as I don't survive.
As far as loved ones left behind, I have been thinking about that and have written a pretty good letter for them that explains that this is what I want and that they should not be sad about it or think that there was something they could have done. I take full responsibility for my actions.

Wed 08 Aug 2007 at 7:12 PM
tm

Last night my landlady, who is out of town, called me and asked me to tell her roommate, A, when A got home, to call her son's friend ASAP. And to stay with A as long as she needed me. Hanging up the phone I turned to a friend and said, "Something bad has happened concerning A's son, O. I wonder if O has jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge." And that is what had happened. I don't know why I guessed that O was a jumper. I had never spoken to him and only saw him twice when he was staying with his mom.
The pain that his mom is going thru can not be described.
I know he must have been alot of emotional pain. Suicide runs in my family... every generation. I too have been suicidal but I wrote myself a poem in my 20s that I always turned to when things got too bad. In the poem I tell myself that tomorrow might be a great day so wait one more day. For years I had to read that poem every day, now I haven't read it for a couple of decades. I wished I had shared that poem with O.

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 8:56 AM
sh

sh - that poem has saved your life many a times. It must be very powerful.
tm - why don't you write a positive poem and wait and see if you can get past the 20th with it. Gee... I can't believe the trend for this bridge!! I guess they've made it so high off the water that death is pretty imminent. We have nice bridges in London, the Tower of London is an icon like the GGB but we don't hear of jumpers. I'm sure it goes on but we just don't hear of it as much as the GGB. Well tm - I don't know if you're a coward for taking the easy way out of life or a strong person for deciding to end your life in such a painful way. tm - are you spiritual at all? Do you believe in God?

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 9:29 AM
Bru

I like the idea of a poem saving your own life. That says a hell of a lot about the poet and the ability to write.
I have written thousands of poems and even managed to get some published as well as my own book of poetry published but I don't think I have any that powerful.
I get the feeling that you think I am depressed or crawling around on the floor with tears streaming down my cheeks in pain but I'm not. I am actually very excited and happy with my decision.
I paid a parking ticket the other day and then thought to myself, "What the hell are you doing idiot?" The rest of the day I spent laughing as I tore up the rest of my bills and giggled at my dwindling bank account.
Something like 30 dollars remain and I am seriously thinking about overdrawing it just for the hell of it.
I do not believe in God nor any afterlife. I hope there is an afterlife simply because there are some friends who I would give anything to see again and spend an eternity with but I don't think there is.
Interesting thing though. I actually found myself asking a very sarcastic question of God the other day. I asked him to show me some sign if he doesn't want me to kill myself.
So maybe I do sort of believe. I don't know.
My bedroom door did slam shut though about twenty minutes later. It happens sometimes when soemone opens the living room door because of the air flow through the house. Strangely no one was here but me.
*Que eery music*
Food for thought I guess but you know even if I knew for certain God exists. He better keep me alive a long time because I have some serious questions I want answered and if I do not like the answers, I promise to burn any heaven he may have created to the ground.
Wow, this turned into a rant and a wall of text. Sorry about that.

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 10:02 AM
tm

tm - You've had poetry published and you think you're a failure??!! Well it doesn't look like there's much hope for the rest of us then does there? So you do believe in God? If so, you know there is no heaven for souls that have committed suicide don't you?

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 10:18 AM
Bru

tm - I don't think at this moment you are depressed. Like most people who decide to end their lives, you are happy. Probably the happiest you have been in sometime. You feel that you now have some control over your life.

You asked God for a sign telling you if you shouldn't kill yourself.

This is your sign.

Think of the people who have posted to this board asking you not to end your life...to continue to live. God sent these people to you.

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 11:50 AM
sh

If there is a god, I could buy that possibility but not the possibility of heaven and hell. They sound and feel too much like ghost stories you tell your kids to keep them in line.
I can say the people here have definetely made me rethink a few things which kind of pisses me off for the fact that I was dead set against believing that strangers can change a life.
I don't know yet but we'll see what happens in the days to come. The 17th will be the final stepping stone. Going to sit down with a really good friend and talk to her about it and see what she thinks once she gets passed the being pissed off part and see what she has to say.
So no promises, but you all have made me see a little bit more than I had previously. Thank you for that.

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 12:31 PM
tm

God bless you TM! If you decide not to jump,I would like to buy/read your poetry book.I need something to get my mind going. My brother who I adore was murdered last year and my dad was diagnosed with cancer 2 weeks ago. Luckily ,I have some strong reason not to kill myself.(3 beautiful and hopeful little kids)My dad always says that life is a continuous struggle. To give up is just too easy! Take care TM.

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 5:06 PM
angel

TM - FANTASTIC!!! I would like to buy your book also. Is it available in London? Or can I buy it over the internet? You know I have this strange good feeling about you tm. I feel this is your turning point and things are going to start to look up for you from now on. Go see your friend and talk and talk and talk. Talk to anyone and everyone. Don't bottle things up inside - let it all out. Even if it means screaming it out to God above and around. God is listening tm. God is here. He can hear you right now and he is willing to help you. But he needs your help also. Let me know where I can get hold of your poetry. Today the sun is shining in London and I can feel it is also shining on you. TM - Have a great day!!

Thu 09 Aug 2007 at 8:16 PM
Bru

We shall see about that but either way I'll be sure to leave a message on here.

Wrote one the other day that seems fitting for this forum/webpage/blog...

The blue sign
With white lettering
Crisis counseling
The phone sits waiting
As I walk on by

Yellow lights
Phantoms of fog
Swirling under illumination
And carried out over
The bay
By the wind

Tall maroon towers
Fade into the mist
Trailing cables
The occasional red light
Blinking
Signaling
Slowly
From high above

The light posts numbered
Standing between
109 and 111
Looking east
Towards Alcatraz
But seeing only the grey and black
Blanket of fog
The black water
The occasional sea foam
Silently speeding out to sea
Four foot high railing
Hands reach out to touch it
Wet with the morning dew
Cold yet alive
It vibrates
With the passing cars

The loud thud of the roadway
As vehicles speed passed
A sound repeated endlessly
Yet still cause a start
A scare
Trucks rumble by
The bridge flexes and bounces
Amazing

So many lives lost
Without sunlight
With only the dark
Of early morning
You can feel them
So many tears
So much pain
Companionship found
Silently standing alone

Between 109 and 111
A white beanie lies on the other side
Its embroidered logo obscured
Did it belong to someone
Who leapt to freedom
Or someone casually walking by
Dropped by a child’s hand
As it fell just out of reach
Disappointment in their eyes

The dark red and green lights
Of boats pass underneath
Headed out to sea
Bicyclists zip passed
Without a glance back
Perhaps it isn’t their place
To offer a kind word
To even say hello

Feeling like a ghost already
You can stand for hours
Without ever being bothered
Watching as the bridge lights
Wink out just before
6am
And then the spot lights
That shine into the sky
Follow suit
Plunging the bridge into darkness
As it awaits the sun
The bay coming into view slowly
The fog starting to burn away
Climb up onto the railing
Completely terrified of heights
Yet it doesn’t look that far
Birds fly by just off the surface
The sea looks so
Welcoming
Inviting

Something else stirs the air
Mixing in with the wind
Echoes of imagination maybe
But I feel something
Stir within
Whispered words
Encourage me
To step down

As I step off the bridge I pass by the sign
White lettering
A waiting phone
A key sits atop the box
A key
I will not need
The dead have spoken
Not today


Fri 10 Aug 2007 at 9:17 AM
tm

Angel, My heart goes out to you. I hope your father recovers quickly in full remission and stays that way for another lifetime.

Fri 10 Aug 2007 at 9:26 AM
tm

Thanks Tm! I know he is fighting to live! He had a crappy life since as a boy. Not fair that cancer is trying to take him! However,as he always said:"Give up is just too easy".
I love the poem you wrote,really! I could feel the bridge as I read every world! You are talented!!!

Fri 10 Aug 2007 at 2:43 PM
Angel

tm - WOW!!! What a poem - you are really talented. Is there more?

Fri 10 Aug 2007 at 9:44 PM
Bru

Cancer can indeed be beaten. A close friend of mine did it and the only thing that worried him was if his hair would grow back in grey instead of black. lol.
I'm posting a link in the url thing. Don't know if it will show up or not but hopefully.

Sat 11 Aug 2007 at 5:00 AM

Tm, the URL didn't post :(

So,where do you post from? California?
I'm in Ohio.

Sat 11 Aug 2007 at 2:39 PM
angel

yea I'm in the north bay here in California.

www.thiefofdreams.com

i think you just have to click my initials in the above post and it should take you there..

Sat 11 Aug 2007 at 6:17 PM
tm

TM ,thanks for the link! Stupid me didn't realise I could click on the initials *lol*

Sat 11 Aug 2007 at 6:35 PM
angel

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Thu 16 Aug 2007 at 4:19 AM
Phones Rock... Call someone

Congradulations on knowing how to look up a domain registration. I don't really know what you had planned by that but grats none the less...

Fri 17 Aug 2007 at 3:44 AM
tm

Just sharin info. Maybe someone would like to take you out to lunch. Give a ring, who knows.... Has a birthday this weekend, and if preventing someone from being selfish and ruining so many others lives...then I will have a good birthday.

Fri 17 Aug 2007 at 11:26 AM
Nothing.....

I supppose you have helped me realize one thing. It was stupid to voice my plans at all. I won't waste any more of your time here.

Sat 18 Aug 2007 at 3:07 AM
tm

Hi TM - sorry haven't posted for a few days. How are you doing? Took a look at your web-site. You've got a really kind face and write some powerful stuff. Well done - and hey don't listen to the person who posted before. They're talking a load of crap and clearly not on this planet when they wrote it as none of it made real sense to me.

Sun 19 Aug 2007 at 8:23 AM
Bru

Well.... It is the 21st..?! Anyways, Talking about your plans, usually is a cry for help. SO... :-P Chill Out, Cheer Up, Don't Jump.

Wed 22 Aug 2007 at 4:42 AM
Soooo.....

Ahh yes, I have mised my date. Had to see Rage Against The Machine in SF. Strangely the conversation I had planned on never happened. Probably for the best.
Though I can understand your thinking that my posting here is a cry for help, however it is simply a place to bounce some thoughts around to make sure nothing has been forgotten.
No set date now, it is all going to be played by ear. Once the pains get too bad, I go.
Strange that one of my greatest regrets is not being able to see the I Am Legend movie. LOL. Sad.

Thu 23 Aug 2007 at 1:48 AM
tm

Hi Terry, i've seen your website and read your poems, i like them, you have good skills. I've sent you a request on myspace but i think you deleted it, well i just had to tell you this things, if you would like to get in touch to share opinions and thoughts let me know and i'll show up. Btw i'm italian and i live in italy.
Take Care

Thu 23 Aug 2007 at 3:08 AM

Hi Terry, i've seen your website and read your poems, i like them, you have good skills. I've sent you a request on myspace but i think you deleted it, well i just had to tell you this things, if you would like to get in touch to share opinions and thoughts let me know and i'll show up. Btw i'm italian and i live in italy.
Take Care

Thu 23 Aug 2007 at 3:10 AM

Sorry about that, I have gotten into the habbit of deleting all incoming requests unless I know someone is trying to add me.

Thu 23 Aug 2007 at 8:22 AM
tm

Hi tm!! - Glad to see you're still around!! Hope you're keeping well and writing lots more poems - won't be posting for a few weeks as I'll be on hols in Italy - funny looks like Italy is the place to be!! Take care and I'll post again when I get back!!

Sun 26 Aug 2007 at 12:52 AM
Bru

I am horrified to see that people honestly think that putting up a suicide barrier on the bridge is not worth the lives it will save. How can you compare preserving the "majestic beauty" of a tourist attraction to saving living breathing people. THe bridge is a thing...it doesnt have thoughts or feelings...it has revenue. Thats it. I doubt that a barrier would stop people from visiting. If anything, I think a barrier would allow people to enjoy the bridge rather than worring about watching someone die.

Tue 28 Aug 2007 at 9:43 AM
mel

Actually no it would never stop people from killing themselves it would only stop them from jumping off the bridge. A victimless crime would end up being replaced by possible things such as suicide by cop, car wreck via another motorist, etc. If they want to jump. LET THEM JUMP!

Tue 28 Aug 2007 at 4:07 PM
No

wow. the person who posted before me is shockingly misinformed and uneducated. You think suicide is a victim-less crime? You obviously haven't lost anyone to it then. People who commit suicide leave a trail of victims behind them. People who loved them and will question "what if" for the rest of their lives.
If someone really wants to die, then you are right, they probably will. But why let suicide jumpers take up more city and police time and put other people in danger (like rescue workers and coast guard, not to mention sailors and people out on the water)? It is not just a black and white issue -- there's a lot of gray area that your dwindling brain cells have yet to explore.

Wed 29 Aug 2007 at 3:37 PM
kk

To the guy who expose TM's identity I have to say that what you did is totally not cool. To put his address,phone number,full name etc on a site like this is irresponsible to say the least!Note that you didn't even had a nick name posted.What if someone expose ALL your private info online??? There could be other ways you could help if indeed you cared!!

Thu 30 Aug 2007 at 2:04 PM
angel

I wasn't too worried about it. Just about all of that info is actually on my website itself including my actual phone number but hey he gets a round of applause for trying.
Hows your dad doing Angel?

Regarding the barrier topic, I would have to agree somewhat with "no" on the subject of alternative ways to commit suicide. Victims is a pretty generic term to use in regards to those still alive who are coping with the loss. I'm sure some could be victims but I prefer to think that if those who cared for me really understood then they would not want me to stay and suffer simply because they wanted me around to crack a joke or two on occasion. Take a second to try an understand that those who commit suicide usually have good reason and a strong desire to do so. Maybe we should try being a little less selfish in our own desires to have those we love near us and instead try to understand and accept what it is they want.

Thu 30 Aug 2007 at 9:23 PM
tm

Hi TM! My dad is doing great,thanks! We just found out today that he has no apparent remaining cancer after the surgery he went through! He will go through a light treatment,not even losing his hair,the doctors said.He is doing very well!
Thank you for asking!

Life is weird! He consider this as a second chance,giving up on his favorite " long term " suicide tool, CIGARRETE SMOKE!*lol*

Take care of yourself! Glad you are around.

Fri 31 Aug 2007 at 2:31 PM
angel

Hi TM! My dad is doing great,thanks! We just found out today that he has no apparent remaining cancer after the surgery he went through! He will go through a light treatment,not even losing his hair,the doctors said.He is doing very well!
Thank you for asking!

Life is weird! He consider this as a second chance,giving up on his favorite " long term " suicide tool, CIGARRETE SMOKE!*lol*

Take care of yourself! Glad you are around.

Fri 31 Aug 2007 at 2:33 PM
angel

Hey TM! I saw Jenn "scribbles" through the link on your site and was touched.How did she died?
So sad!

Mon 03 Sep 2007 at 6:05 PM
angel

Lymphoma.

Mon 03 Sep 2007 at 11:44 PM

Just got back from another trip to the bridge. You almost have to see it in the early morning while the lights are still on, the fog still thick and the sun has yet to rise.
I have a theory about why so many jump from light post 69. As new age and hip as it might be to think of it as a sexual reference I think it has more to do with the placement of one of the crisi phones and the ease in which it is to climb up onto the railing there.
I'm sure some hover next to the phone debating on whether or not to pick it up and some even manage to pick it up if only to tell the person on the other line to send the coast guard cause they are jumping. After having placed that call there wouldnt be much time before the CHP arrives so I assume they just climb over and step off.
Just a guess though.
Not a day goes by that I don't miss my friend Jenn. It took a lot of anger and depression to make me realize how utterly selfish of me it was to want her back among the living knowing that she was in tremendous pain.
Even though she did not commit suicide, it has helped me to understand that those who wish to end their suffering should not be detained from doing so out of our own selfish wants. I'm just repeating myself though so I'll shut up.
I personally like light pole 79. Same year I was born, seems a fitting number and place for when that day comes.

Tue 04 Sep 2007 at 1:13 AM

TM! You are a cool kid,but pretty wicked*LOL*

Tue 04 Sep 2007 at 5:21 AM
angel

I guess I can drop the "tm" thing now.
Thanks, being called wicked brings a smile to my face. Hehe. I dunno why, but it does.

Tue 04 Sep 2007 at 4:06 PM

:)

Wed 05 Sep 2007 at 4:10 PM
angel

So this is it for me. I'll spend today (friday) at the movie theater and then saturday morning I'll take my last walk across the bridge.
Thank you Angel, Bru, Gladiatore, SH, M.A., Kellie and Jamie for taking the time to listen to me and try an help. I did get some very good advice here and I think that those I leave behind will be a little more informed because of it.
Take care

Sat 08 Sep 2007 at 1:40 AM


You don't fail until you let go.

Sat 08 Sep 2007 at 7:31 AM
Words for you

Ok calm down, I'm not going to kill myself. Just needed a little head clearing breather.
Besides, there are some kick ass movies coming out soon. Can't miss I Am Legend.
Vampires FTW!

Sat 08 Sep 2007 at 11:21 AM
terry

Great! Now that I bought you some flowers you tell methat!!! *LOL*
Just kiding! Don't play with that wicked boy!

Sat 08 Sep 2007 at 2:54 PM
angel

So yea that little guick post wasn't enough to keep a friend from calling the local police department.
Spent Friday night in Marin General and will be trying to get things back in shape starting tomorrow.

Mon 10 Sep 2007 at 11:09 AM
terry

Can relate to so much. Sometimes less spoken can still speak volumes.

Tue 11 Sep 2007 at 7:14 PM
k

All this chitter chatter....

I don't live in SF but after seeing THE BRIDGE I've decided it's where my story should end. There are many other ways to write the final chapter, but this is how I want it to be.

You all can write back and forth about reason why or why not someone should take his or her own life, but in the end it's a very intimate and personal decision.

May you all have beautiful lives....

Thu 13 Sep 2007 at 10:47 AM
layne

Layne, I won't try to talk you out of it or feed you some bullshit thought process but I will ask one thing of you. Will you call someone? I dont care who, just call them and tell them goodbye and why.

Thu 13 Sep 2007 at 12:49 PM
terry

Terry --

I am very happy you didn't go through with it. I have a recently diagnosed neuro condition that needs all kinds of nasty treatments, one being regular spinal taps. The day you said you were going to do it the first time, I was laying on that table. I thought about you even though I don't know you. I thought to myself that I hope you are being strong. If I can fight for my life as I am doing now, than you can too. Please keep doing so. It can only get better. The same goes for Layne above.
I've been to San Francisco many, many times and I know how beautiful and hypnotic that bridge and the water below can be. Believe me, I understand why people jump. But that water is not at tranquil when your body hits it. A little bit of beauty in the city and bridge is lost with every life that ends there. At least for me.

Please stay strong Terry. Your in my thoughts!
KK

Thu 13 Sep 2007 at 2:53 PM
kk

Hey Terry,how are you doing?

Thu 27 Sep 2007 at 3:34 PM
angel

I'm hanging in there. Slowly packing my things and moving back to where I grew up sometime next week.
Thanks for the comment on the poem but don't worry, I have been writing for a while, it is the only way I know how to really open up and vent some of the things I am feeling. To scared to talk to anyone close to me because I don't want them to look at me any differently than they did before, you know?
So it is a bit tricky, but I'm still here.
Debating on whether or not to stop and take some more bridge pictures before I leave. Something to look back upon and say, "I contemplated the Golden Gate Bridge, walked away, and all I got was this stupid Shirt" type of thing.
Not sure if that is a good idea though.
Anyway so yea, Marin County can't help you by the way if you don't have money. I called the doctor whos card I was given by the people at Marin General Emergency Psych and he said basically if I can't pay, he can't see me. LOL. So much for that idea.
Instead of giving you a taxi cab voucher to take you home they should give you a zip lock bag for your personals and a bus ticket to the bridge.
All it is is a restraint for a day lock down. As long as you don't slit your wrists with the plastic spork while you are there, they don't care.
Well I take that back, Tori seemed to want to help and to understand a bit but he was the exception.

Thu 27 Sep 2007 at 5:50 PM

Hi again Terry! I hope you have a great new begining where you grew up.
I will no longer write on this blog and I wish that everyone do well and try their best to do good and have happy lives. Terry,if you need to talk anytime,email me at : capriotti69@yahoo.com. BE GOOD wicked boy!

Fri 05 Oct 2007 at 7:02 PM
angel

Saw the movie The Bridge. . .

I am in favor of setting up a barrier, reducing harm. . .

Life is pain. . .anyone who thinks different is a fool.

I have struggled with bouts of severe anxiety for years. At times I was so riddled with confusion that I could only fall asleep for 4 hours overexhausted and twitching physically from mental confusion. I think I have suffered in that sense quite a bit. I have also suffered the smallest things everyday. . .I tear myself a new hangnail firing up the lawnmower. . .we watch others waste away from disease or drugs/alcohol.

Life is about seeing your soul slowly disintegrate--this is the only lesson, and one that is profoundly beautiful. We must learn to live with this realization when we hit rock bottom. I say give me a painful death and send me out screaming, but not by my own hand. Don't wallow in misery and ask yourself "why is it me who is suffering"? Ask yourself "what meaning can my suffering have for me and my life".

Live on. . . suffer. . .savor everything and become better for it. . .the alternative is nothing . . .and nothing ever came of nothing.

Fri 12 Oct 2007 at 4:50 PM
T

have been debating with myself in recent weeks weather or not to wathch the film the bridge.now i wish i hadnt! cant get the image of gene out of my head and how calm and peaceful he looked as he fell. contemplating suicide is one thing. doing so is another. for those few seconds as he fell i think gene for the first time in his life was completley at peace with himself and the world. rip

Tue 16 Oct 2007 at 9:05 AM
alan

Alan,
I recently saw, "The Bridge," and wish I didn't see it also. The images were just so haunting and disturbing. I think all the jumpers are resting in peace, hopefully. Ruby's friend's story made me cry, he seemed like a good person. I think Gene needed a girlfriend, he needed some kind of affection. I think he thought he was too big of a loser for someone to be in love with him. I was reading an article online today about the debate over the suicide barrier. Apparently, the plans and talks have been put off for about 6-9 months, some kind of transfer of who is in charge of all the efforts. The article also stated that there has been 33 suicides from the bridge this year so far. I only hope that people who are suicidal can get the help they need before it's to late.

Wed 17 Oct 2007 at 7:34 PM

i ended up on this site 3 steps after googling "most photographed person". surfing the net is like a box of chocolates........also why no jumps from 52?

Sat 20 Oct 2007 at 1:59 PM
trav

Trav,
Who is the most photographed person? I'm to lazy to Google it myself. I think you ended up here b/c the Golden Gate Bridge is one of the most photographed landmarks in the world, sometimes Google gives you info you didn't ask for. Have you seen the movie, "The Bridge" yet? It'll depress the hell out of you. I don't know why no one chose 52, I didn't notice until you pointed it out. I wonder about the one's that chose to jump onto land, or close to the edges of the bridge. Maybe they figured well jumping into water that fast will hurt just as bad as hitting land. Maybe they we're high on something or blind. For sure I would want to be on something if I chose to jump, it would make it perhaps less painful, or make me forget about everything, but I would jump into the water. I think everyone goes through disappointments/failures in life, but instead of saying well then let them end it by killing themselves. We should try and help one another, and stop being assholes.

Tue 23 Oct 2007 at 4:25 PM

Terry..are you ok?

Fri 02 Nov 2007 at 2:19 AM
SS

Are the light poles actually numbered on the Golden Gate itself?

I plan on visiting in November and was just curious as to whether they actually have numbers that the public can see.

Sun 04 Nov 2007 at 2:02 PM

My cousin jumped off the bridge this morning, 20 years old. My family is in so much pain.

Still have not recovered his body. Hoping he is in peace.

Fri 16 Nov 2007 at 3:23 PM

Yes the light poles are numbered.

Sun 25 Nov 2007 at 9:34 AM
tod

It scares me that the film romanticized suicide for some. It was cathartic for me to watch it after two extreme events. My daughter ended up in the psych ward after a botched suicide attempt/call for help. A week after getting help from a therapist/friend, my therapist jumped and died. A guy at my kid's school was featured in the film and is a survivor who suffers the affects of surviving the jump, but also preaches to deter others from jumping. And just recently, a young talented artist/mom jumped, leaving not just her family and friends in turmoil, but also all the kids who were friends with her kid bereft. The one sure thing a little kid has is usually a parent or two. I don't judge her or my therapist, as I don't know their pain. But so many regret on their way down, I wonder why not a barrier? A view or a life? Could a barrier change someone who may feel or be better the next day. These suicides resonate and impact so many. Who really cares what number pillar they jumped from. They may have had a chance to recover and continue on. My daughter is ok now, actually happy and involved with her life, and thankfully her attempt didn't take.

Thu 29 Nov 2007 at 10:35 PM
slippersong

"My 31 years old daughter died last July 7th. She did not want to die but the "thoughts" from her bipolar illness told her to jump. She warned us earlier about these painful "thoughts" and told us to get her to the hospital when they came; BUT WE WEREN'T HOME."

How about realizing it is your fault and not the fault of the bridge. Go jump yourself if you can't handle that reality.

Mon 21 Jan 2008 at 5:10 AM
damn hypocrits

Why would you blame someone for their daughter's suicide?
Why can no one understand that this is not a sad thing, that taking your own life is a beautiful examp-le of understanding which is shattered and ruined and fucked up by all the greedy selfish people of the world who want to bring back the dead simply so they can have a reason and a purpose to appologize and make something that has absolutely nothing to do with them a little bit about them.
Who knows? Perhaps my thoughts are lost in the wind and I am wrong.

Wed 23 Jan 2008 at 7:54 AM
smaerd


I've bought the film "The Bridge" and found it shocking at 1st to see people take their lives and jump.

Then I thought, “what have they done in their lives so serious that they need to end it so quickly” and “Why can’t they talk to someone about their problems”.

I would like to have a job where I could speak to people who are feeling depressed etc, Try to create a plan for that person to follow and get them back onto the straight path so they can enjoy life again.

I just hope everyone who makes that decision to end their lives on the bridge can try to think of the pain, which their loved ones, people who they know will go through afterwards when they are told.

I have walked across the bridge once (live nr London) when I was on holiday and saw the amazing view of SF in the distance across the bay. It is a lovely setting.

Yes, I have even thought about killing myself sometimes as life gets to heavy, but I could not leave the guilt of pain to the people who find me and my family.

When I feel down / depressed I visit Theme Parks and ride “Rollercoasters” to get myself back to real time.

Life is too short to die early, if you have problems “talk” to someone before making a choice.

Sat 26 Jan 2008 at 2:16 AM
JC

i think that suicide is bad. i suppose that they jumped off the bridge bc they dont want 2 pay 4 their morgage.

Tue 26 Feb 2008 at 2:44 AM
haley

Yesterday my wife and I stopped at the bridge to walk on it. We parked in the lot behind the bridge office building and walked under to the pedestrian side. She decide to use the restroom, which took about 10 minutes. We then started walking on the bridge and stopped at one point to talk for about 5 minutes. About 5 minutes later on our walk (northbound) I saw a flare in the water about 1/2 mile north. I also saw red police lights on the shore on the far side and just then noticed a boat leaving that area, assumed it was Coast Guard. We walked north and then saw a police care pull to the side blocking the right lane with its flashing lights on. We get to the car and I see a policeman, I ask what is going on, I see the Coast Guard boat going around in circles about 1/4 mile. He said there was a jump called in... we walk up to 3 people and ask about it. A young (20s) woman said she had seen the impact but not the jump but a lady who was standing next to her at the time (about 30 min ago now) saw the jump and called 911. We watched the Coast Guard and police boat circle a few more times and then we started back to our car. If my wife hadn't gone to the restroom and if we hadn't stopped and talked we might have witnessed it, and probably would have been traumatized by it. I noticed when we started out there was a small (8"x10") sign to call for help if you're thinking about suicide. I told my wife I noticed the sign and pointed it out to her on the return walk. She replied, it should be much bigger, but someone in that frame of mind probably wouldn't read it anyway. I noticed at the beginning of the bridge walkway a large sign with the international symbols for no dogs, no fishing, no skateboards, but there was not one for no jumping.

Tue 18 Mar 2008 at 6:08 AM
Tomas

I doubt this site still posts comments but I just saw "The Bridge" tonight, I found it very disturbing. I Had no idea so many people are that depressed to get to the point where they leap to their deaths. It was creepy to see these people so easily jump over the railing and to their deaths. I can only imagine what goes through people's minds on their way down. And for those who posted last year with thoughts of jumping, I only hope you have come to a different conclusion. Life can be bad at times, we always know that, but what a difference a day can make. I've had friends commit suicide and it's the ones left behind that suffer the most, they have to live with that loss and grief the rest of their lives.

Mon 25 Aug 2008 at 6:48 PM
johnd

I lived in SF for 8 years, and worked at several start ups there. One thing I learned about SF is that there are many dysfunctional cross cultural elements within SF. Unlike other cities, SF has no overriding shared experience. There is a great deal of tolerance, but little acceptance of other lifestyles. Many people are conflicted over who they really are, and the city does not help you figure it out. There are also other serious issues in the Bay Area, such as the hauntingly high female cancer rate in Marin County, and the large population percentage of those with HIV/AIDS. The Golden Gate Bridge (GGB) is well known for it's suicide history, and when many people think of this terrible solution, GGB is the first thing that comes to many minds. Just remember that the SF Bay area has an extremely artistically rebellious culture. When any kind of dysfunction enters such lifestyles many of these people can find themselves in a lost disposition. My 2 cents ..

Bill Wilkins,
Melted Metal Web Radio,
http://www.meltedmetal.com/

Sat 30 Aug 2008 at 5:38 PM

hi all. The best thing to give to your enemy is forgiveness; to an opponent, tolerance; to a friend, your heart; to your child, a good example; to a father, deference; to your mother, conduct that will make her proud of you; to yourself, respect; to all men, charity.
I am from Canada and also now'm speaking English, please tell me whether I wrote the following sentence: "Also take note, what works for one woman doesn always work for another, always bare that in mind."

Thank ;) Cher.

Thu 15 Jan 2009 at 10:49 AM

I should have done it.

Thu 09 Apr 2009 at 6:37 AM
meagainmargaret
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